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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Half banana

  Everything is wrong with JW org.

  O'Brien here is trying limit the damage of the ARC findings and conclusion which he acknowledges will be put on the internet.

  He made a fool of himself at the ARC hearings with his inability to see the issues as legally presented and instead pathetically repeated himself defending the party line. The party line being that scriptural values, i.e. that the need for "two witnesses" to an offence, cannot be altered. This as everyone knows bears the blind unthinking illogicality of the fact that sex criminals remove themselves from other's gaze. What he actually meant was that Watchtower dogma-- which he equates with scripture, must not be seen to be compromised because that is the JW strong hand which they play in the religion game.

  Laws penned two thousand six hundred year ago may have served for desert goat herders but not for people today who know that compassion and child welfare and development is paramount and enshrined in modern laws and social services.

  The very basis for the JW religion, that the Bible is sacred, is outdated and plain wrong. To believe and act on it literally as JWs do is ignorant and harmful.
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  I am happier when i am out

  by IamWhatIam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  fellows.

  finally find a place to share experience for jwers.

  i am also a ex-jwer and left the ´truth´ on jan. 2018. i live and work in midt jylland in denmark.

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  Half banana

  Welcome IamwhatIam! As your name implies it is far far better to simply be one's self as opposed to being a Watchtower drone.

  Perhaps you could give us a flavour of how Denmark is today in relation to being in and leaving the JW org. Denmark being noted here in UK for its progressive and rational thinking.

  One other question you might be able shed light on; how did a JW assembly hall in Denmark come to have an eye symbol with radiating sight lines built into it as seen in the aerial plan of its layout?
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  Comparing God with Abraham dishonors God

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  abraham was tested by god (genesis 22:1) to know whether he would abandon his attachment towards his son.. attachment is a sign of ego, the fountain head of all vices.

  when you ignore all the factors and forces (known and unknown) that are at work behind every happening, you tend to say “i did this and that”thus taking credit for which your part is too negligible.

  it is like a farmer taking credit for the agricultural products.

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  Half banana

  (Sorry Ireneus, I spelled your name wrongly)

  The account of David and the Phillistines is grotesque but of course divinely inspired! However it is unlikely to be true, just a tale to say how the hero David went to ridiculous lengths in affirming the tribal Jewish customs to gain the king's approval to get the princess as his wife. Forget the toll of 200 needless killings amongst the neighbours who are worthy of death because they have a different god. If they worship a different god they must be treated as sub-human and its no loss to murder them in Jehovah's eyes. Such are the sacred Bible values. Anyway how can this be useful guidance for anybody in the 21st century?
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  Comparing God with Abraham dishonors God

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  abraham was tested by god (genesis 22:1) to know whether he would abandon his attachment towards his son.. attachment is a sign of ego, the fountain head of all vices.

  when you ignore all the factors and forces (known and unknown) that are at work behind every happening, you tend to say “i did this and that”thus taking credit for which your part is too negligible.

  it is like a farmer taking credit for the agricultural products.

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  Half banana

  Yes Ireaeus God suffers from all of the worst of human traits including egoism as you point out. God just can't seem to manage without the attachment of puny humans to assist him!

  It was the story of Abraham and Isaac seen through the eyes of Kierkegaard (a theist) which made the penny drop for me and I became atheist. This tale is obviously an early moral tale from polytheistic times when heroes spoke and usually argued personally with their deity. The ugly human sacrifice account promoted an appalling morality which like the Watchtower's is not above ending your children's lives for the sake of fidelity to the cult.

  God is the ego-maniac par excellence, his genocidal lust, homophobia, obsessive patriarchy, nationalism, war-mongering-- "dash all the unbelievers to death including infants" etc, is done with an evil vindictiveness and worse still, he wants perpetual worship for this!

  Could it be that the powerless Judean peasants living under the political domination of a foreign empire, were projecting these traits onto an imaginary divinity who they hoped might save them from their oppressor? Could it?
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  New JW.org Logo

  by Not_Culty in

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  Half banana

  Brill! Let's hope the GB see it and fix the image in their minds..............
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  The people who decided the Scriptures

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many people over many centuries have been involved in deciding which documents were scripture.

  there has never been unanimous agreement, including today.

  only the church of rome took a vote on the canon.

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  Half banana

  In his book The Text of the New Testament, Dr. Vincent Taylor writes that "The manuscripts of the New Testament preserve traces of two kinds of dogmatic alterations: those which involve the elimination or alteration of what was regarded as doctrinally unacceptable or inconvenient, and those which introduce into the Scriptures proof for a favorite theological tenet or practice". (http://BibleCorruption.com ).

  Very apposite Irenaeus.
  
  
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  The Hailstone Message :2018 Assembly

  by jwdoctrine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following is the talk of the assembly followed by my 15 minutes commentary.i have included part of my notes below which i used for the commentary .

  what is the hailstone message?.

  is it literal or symbolic?.

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  Half banana

  Egregious idiots! one hundred and thirty nine years of "special" JW messages attacking "false religion" like hailstones the size of pianos raining down and enlightening mankind before it's too late..............

  How delusional! What a confidence trick! What a waste of precious lives! What a scam!

  The good bit is that the tide is turning and the public no longer want to tolerate abusive cults like Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  1969 Awake on Education - A Sore Spot for Me

  by NotBlind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father would have started college 49 years ago this week.

  about three months earlier, the week he graduated high school, the awake!

  magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers.

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  Half banana

  I too suffered from not getting the education I wanted. In summary people should know from the first contact with Jehovah's Witnesses that you should never believe a word they say and never do what they ask you to do. Use your brain instead.
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  Research Question

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we need this to further our research... .

  the booklet russell, rutherford and "the harp of god" : the heresies of the international bible students association published by the british bible union and written by c. leopold clarke.

  we can't find it in any american library.

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  Half banana

  I recall it referred to an 18 page booklet? It would be strange to want to abbreviate an already brief work?

  Different format, different type size or just one edition?
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  Anyone else get a message from Hanged Man?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know why i'd want to argue over something like this.

  i've been aware of this theory for years.

  as interesting as it is - it's still bullshit.. for future reference, i believe the bible to be a collection of fantasy, myth, real locations and crazy ramblings of psychedelic bloke stuck on patmos.. my reply:.

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  Half banana

  @ waton

  "female fireworms come up from the bottom of the sea to spawn at precisely 55 minutes after sunset on the third night after the full moon."

  Astonishingly good time measurement by anyone's standards-- but from a 4 centimeter worm!!